Season 3, Episode 8 (#49):

Chuck Robinson of Peepers Puppets stops by to talk about the creative side of coding. We get into food choices in New England vs Texas and Georgia, the nature of coding, and the process of building something that works. We end with some discussion of the rise of the machines and end up wondering where the nearest bunker can be found.

References: https://funnynotfunny.bigego.com/links/f/S3~dot~08-We-sell-holes/