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Season 6, Episode 38 (#191):

From Sodom to Hope

a conversation with Julian Fisher

Topics: Upstate New York, Climate Change, Wine Industry, Technology

Monday, August 3, 2026
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In this episode, Julian Fisher, photo journalist and neurologist, shares his insights from his upbringing and travels and explores the fascinating revival of upstate New York amidst climate change, technological advances, and economic shifts. Does climate change have and upside? Well, regionally, perhaps it does, for now. Following the writings of Edmund Wilson, Julian has toured the vastness that is Upstate New York to create a photo journalism project that documents the changes happening north of “The City.”

Follow along at vzul.com